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800 page. It's the only commentary in the book that talks about dinosaurs. Other commentaries don't want to talk about them, but they existed. They should be talked about because people have questions. Therefore, we need to have answers to them. There's one uh book which is interesting, but also we have a companion DVD set called the Genesis Academy. And one of the thing that motivates us is the the command by the Apostle Peter to be ready to make a defense to anyone asking for the reason for the hope that's in you. We're supposed to be prepared. We're supposed to have answers. We're supposed to have reasons for what you believe. The Christian faith is not a blind faith. In fact, Jesus told us to love the Lord your God with your heart, soul, strength, and your mind. There's nothing in the Bible that says you check your brains and at the church door. And we're supposed to engage our minds. But let's face it, what happens when you have questions from your kids, they go to the public school, the government schools or latest movie, and they ask things like, I mean, are there is there life on other planets? And doesn't carbon 14 prove the earth is millions of years old? And how could dinosaurs exist if the world was millions of years old? If the Bible's true? Well, one place to find is our creation answers book which has 60 questions and 20 chapters. And if you really want something, uh, this is a real Jewish bargain. It's a starter starter pack which has a free DVD. It has my first book called Refuting Evolution designed for the high school student and the creation answer book, but it's free DVD as well. So it's that's a real bargain for you. Now when I like talk about anything, it's good to define your terms. Now that's how the cults get you that they they use the same words that we

use. They have different meanings for the terms. So when you have this cult, the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormon at your door, you should make sure you define what they mean by the words they use. I think the same true with dinosaurs. What do I mean by the word dinosaur? Well, dinosaur has a very distinctive meaning. It has these legs that are vertical. They're column-like legs. So, the dinosaurs were actually held up upright. They're upright legs. See crocodiles and lenses, their legs sprawl out to the sides. So, it's not correct to call a crocodile or komodo dragon a dinosaur. The the leg structure is totally different. And also, if you look here, here's the thyroid here. This part here is called the process. That's an anatomical term, a process it puts into a hole in the hipbone. That's also a distinctive feature of dinosaurs. When you look at a dinosaur hip, they have a hole there. Now, we have a cup there. Now, I'm not saying you have to memorize this, too. It's called acetabulum. It's Latin for little vinegar cup because we have a cup there in our hips. Most animals have a cup there. Dinosaurs are unique in that they have a hole there. So, the creature doesn't have a big hole there. It's not a dinosaur. So remember, it's the colon like lens and the big hole on the hip. That's what makes a dinosaur a dinosaur. Now, where do you find out about these unique creatures? Um, it's in the history book of the universe. This is the book from creation. It goes right to the to the end of time until and and up to eternity future. That's how far it goes. And it does tell us when dinosaurs existed, when they were made, who made them? Because you go back right to the first book of the Bible, we see on day six, God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds. Now,

it's interesting. 10 times Genesis says created, they reproduce according to their kinds. Not one kind evolving into different kind. There's no room for evolution there, but there's a lot of room for variation within these kinds. God created the kinds with immense ability to vary but not one kind going into another kind. Like birds are a different kind from dinosaurs because birds were created on day five. Dinosaurs were created on day six. But also on day six, God made humans. Now we we see that they made male and female. Genesis one. See when you look at the structure of of Genesis, it's um a technique called recapitulation. what the ancient near east would do. They'd have a summary outline of the whole and then they'd focus in on the most important part of that and go into more detail. See, Genesis 1 gives you the whole creation in six days goes up really goes up to Genesis 2:4. That's where the chapter should be divided. And then chapter 2 4 onwards tells you more about the end point of Genesis 1, which is the creation of man and woman, which gives you more details. says that God created Adam first out of the the dust and then um Genesis 1 says, "I've given man dominion over the rest of the animals." In the Bible, naming something is an exercise of dominion. So God gets Adam to name all the animals. So he's getting Adam to exercise his dominion by his naming. And then God creates Eve from his ribs. So far more detail in Genesis 2. But what you can tell from Genesis 1 alone is that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. Now, you won't find that taught in the government schools or any of the natural history museums, but this is what what God's word says, and he was there at the time. He says they lived at the same time. Now, you might get a question coming back which says, if they lived at the same time, why don't we find the fossils together?

Now, when someone asks a question, you should try to get to behind the question. What is the assumption behind that question? The assumption is if things live together, then you'll find them fossilized together. But is this a good assumption? Well, have a look at this. In the foregrounds, a fish called the celac. They thought that died out with the dinosaurs supposedly 66 million years ago. But we know perfectly well that celacants are alive today. In the background, that's the whale flipper. Now, whale fossils and celicon can fossils are never found together, but we know they live together. They live together in the sea right now, but they're never found fossilized together. So, just because things live together, it does not guarantee they will be fossilized together. The other assumption behind that question is that the fossil record is a record of age. It's nothing of the sort. It's a record of burial. It's a record of burial mainly by the globe covering flood of Noah's day. So that's what we see in the fossil record, the order in which the flood buried things. And since the flood began with the fountains of the great deep bursting forth, something in the ocean before the rainfall, something happened in the ocean, don't forget. So you would expect to find things on the ocean floor being buried first, which is what we do find. And because it's in the water, I expect to find fish buried next. And then as a flood creaked up on the land, I'd expect to find things on the border of water and land buried. That's the amphibians. And it seems that when you look at the the pre flood world, dinosaurs were living in closer to the sea than humans were. Because often we find dinosaur fossils with a lot of marine things. Now, this is another problem because dinosaurs living on land, marine things

living in the sea. Why would they been found fossilized together? That sound very strange. Unless you have a flood washing them together into a huge basin. That's the only way you get sea creatures and land creatures buried in the same places that they were washed together by an enormous amount of water. Now, among things in the fossil record, of course, we have dinosaurs. Dinosaurs definitely existed. There's no question about that. Some were huge as you can see here. Um, this is probably something like a brachiosaurus. And most of the dinosaurs have Greek or Latin names. This is a Greek name meaning arm lizard because it's his front legs were so long. That's unusual for the dinosaurs to have a front leg so long. Um, and this head's about the size high than a fourstory building. So pretty big. to give you an idea of scale of some of the big things. Well, here's a human here. Quite tiny compared to some of these big dinosaurs and non This is not a dinosaur. It's a flying reptile. It's not a dinosaur. It doesn't have the leg structure or the open hipbone. But the biggest creature of all, biggest land creature, the animal of all I should say, is the blue whale. and they're alive today, bigger than any known dinosaur. But some dinosaurs were quite tiny, like this consequence of the giants or where you got these people scaled ridiculous. It doesn't work that way. It cannot work that way. The science doesn't allow this because torped have extra problems. One of them is getting your blood from your heart to your brain. I mean, we need a heart to have a blood pressure of around 120 over 80 so the blood gets from here to here. But a giraffe, look how tall that is. You need much more blood pressure to get the

water up the blood up to the brain. Like about 300 over 180. That's big, which means it needs a very powerful heart. It also needs his legs have pressure bandages on it to make sure well the the blood goes from the leg up to the to the heart. Again, here's a problem for you though. What happens if the giraffe drinks? Why doesn't it blow its brains out with a hemorrhagic stroke with a blood pressure of 300? I mean, if you get a blood pressure of 180, go to hospital. It's dangerous. But this thing has 300. And that was a problem. Scientists couldn't work out what how this giraffe did that because um of why it didn't blow its brains out. They found it has some um veins in the neck which which actually pull the blood. So when the giraffe bends down, the blood pulls in the veins. Doesn't go back to the heart. The heart hasn't got anything to push on. So the blood pressure automatically drops. It's an automatic blood pressure regulating system >> which we don't need but this thing needs. And when the giraffe raises neck, the blood goes back to the heart directly and it's pumped immediately up to the brain. You know what it's like? Sometimes you're lying down, you get up too quickly, you feel lightheaded because the blood hasn't got to your brain yet. That's why the giraffe doesn't have the problem. Now, think of this this brachiosaurus. Look how big this thing was. It would have had a blood pressure of about 750. And one of the things it had, it's a hugely powerful heart. probably had pressure bandages on his legs. Probably had some sort of system in my back so it didn't blow its brains out. I can't tell you what it was because we we only have his bones. This is all we have. I can't tell you how it did that. We know God

must have had some amazing design for this huge creature to be alive to cope with this enormous blood pressure difference. I just didn't know what it was. I just know there must have been something there. Maybe we'll find some soft tissues that might give us a clue. But that gives you an idea. You just you just can't scale things up without extra design features. Okay. So, anyone want to make have a guess of what the biggest dinosaur was then? Anyone? >> Go ahead, please. I don't mind. You can have a guess. I'm not going to not be. >> Sorry. >> Well, one of those long neck creatures. Yes, that'll be one of them. Yeah, one of them. Yeah, definitely a long neck creature. Definitely. Yeah. Okay. Well, here is a chart of things. And you notice this thing called amphelius is off the scale supposedly. That's what they say. So, they say it was 100 um 122 tons and 60 m long or 200 feet long. That's what they say. But then you have to ask what was it based on? Often when you um hear about fossil bones in the media, you should ask what is the evidence that they really have? So what's the evidence they have for this creature? Well, here's a picture of a lot of them. Okay, the black part here is the reconstruction, what they think the creature looked like. The white part is what they actually found. They found one broken bone and that bone has disappeared now. We can't even go back and test it. And from that one bone, they reconstructed that whole creature which I think is a little bit I don't believe that somehow one bone. You can't possibly know what else they had. Now, when you have things like the

ploticus here, and here's a human for scale, they've got most the bones of that creature. So, yeah, this creature was big. We got the bones to prove it. But some of these other very big dinosaurs, we got very few remains of them. So a lot of guesses like Argentinosaurus is quite famous for being big, but we really haven't got that many of his bones. I think my best for u the biggest dinosaur might be this thing called Pagato Titan found in Argentina. Well, here's some humans for scale. And we got it looks like we got most of the bones, but there's a reason for the technicol here is because I got bones from four different specimens. So maybe, okay, maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Okay, but this may I I don't think this is probably a very big creature, but just let you know it's bones from different specimens recombined into one. And we've also got this creature called dead red north where we have most of a lower skeleton. None of not much of a neck. But most of the stuff down here that's pretty well it's pretty good. And again, here's a human for you. And it's interesting that the discoverers said this had a weaponized tail 30t long. So remember that weaponized tail because you can tell from the bones here, these bones supported muscles. And when you consider, look at look at how how big this thing is. You think about something this thick full of bone and muscle. That's incredibly powerful. A real weapon, that thing. Now, the question is, are dinosaurs in the Bible? I I think they are, but not by name, the concepts in the Bible. There's a theological parallel to this, you know, because the cult people come knocking at door and they tell you the word trinity is not in the Bible. How do you answer that? Well, so what is the right right answer

because of doctrine is in the Bible because the Bible says the father's God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God, and there's one God. The the doctrine, the trinity is in the Bible. The word is not, but the doctrine is. And they come back and say, "Well, you should stick to words that are found in the Bible." Then you point out the word Bible is not found in the Bible. But I think that the dinosaur, the creature that we now call a dinosaur is in the Bible. The thing is it's not named because the name is a very recent name. 1841 is the when the word was invented. So of course it's not going to be in the King James Bible or the Geneva Bible or the Wickliff Bible because the word didn't exist to put it in. But there are creatures that are in the Bible that are now what we would call dinosaurs. Now the name rich it was from Richard Owen again from the Greek words meaning terrible lizard or terrible reptile for a specific those those creatures with the hole in the hip and the vertical legs. That's what so he grouped them by this name dinosaur. So it's a modern word when you think of a word like calculator. I mean some of you guys are old enough to remember slide rules aren't you? Okay. But the word calculator is a modern device. But the word calculator is a very old word. You got a group of Oxford univers brilliant um mathematicians at Oxford University in the Middle Ages called the Oxford calculators. So the word calculator is much older than the word dinosaur. But here's what is in the Bible. If you go to the earliest book of the Bible to be finished, I think was the book of Job. But see, Genesis wasn't finished until Joseph died. It goes, of course, it goes back to creation, but it wasn't end until Joseph died. But I think Job was written around

the time of Abraham or Isaac, so it's older. It it was finished earlier. And in the book of Job, we have God giving him a creation lesson. And all these creatures are well known. We know what these creatures are. But then we get to a screeature called Behemoth. What's a behemoth? I think so. But thing is the the translators didn't know what it was. So they left the Hebrew alone. Behemoth is not an English word. It's a Hebrew word. They didn't translate it because they didn't know what it meant. Now behemoth is a Hebrew plural, too. It means beasts plural. Beheim means one beast. Behemoth means more than one beast. So why are you calling one creature by a plural word? Because it's saying this is the beast of beasts. So it's the biggest creature God had made. That's why it's got the plural there to intensify it. But he's a planteater. He eats grass like an ox. But also he says he makes his tail stiff like a cedar. Now what's a cedar? It's a very big tree. That's why King Solomon made his temple out of the Lebanon cedar trees, right? Because it's the biggest tree that he could find. And in the Bible, when something is compared to a cedar, it's saying how amazingly magnificent it is. Now, some study Bibles claim the behemoth was an elephant. Okay, here's an elephant tail. Is that a cedar tree? I'm wondering bonsai cedar. Maybe another idea is a hippopotamus. Okay, here's a hippo tail. Now, this is doesn't make sense. Here's another idea. Now, remember when I told you about this creature here, the the 30 foot long weaponized tail this thick, Maybe that's a tail like a cedar. That makes perfect sense of the Bible's description

of a tail like a cedar. An elephant or a hippo does not. The tail like a ceda has to be something like this, like a dreadnaugh. Now, what about Leviathan? Well, it's interesting that one description of Leviathan is that his skin seems to be immune to spears. And that fits a huge crocodile called dinosucus. Much about twice as as wide as long as the biggest crocs now, which I have to go back to Australia back in my home city, Queensland. If you think of the crocodile hunter museum, they are big, dangerous creatures. But this thing was twice as long and therefore about 10 times as heavier. And it was covered with bony armor. It's had armor plating in its skin. So when you think about what the creature was like, it was a river creature that you just couldn't that harpoons and spears were useless against because it had the armor plates in the skin. So the the Leviathan was not a dinosaur because again it's got the sprawling legs. Not a dinosaur, but it's I think an extinct giant um alligator like thing called a dino suc. It's very closer to an alligator than to a crocodile. So that's what I think is is the the uh Leviathan to answer your burning questions about that. So a lot of different things. I think that also some legends humans talk talk about dragons in their history. That was a big thing for them. the dragons around like for instance the Chinese calendar is a 12 year cycle with these four these are the 12 animals going in a cycle and the dragon is one of them but a dragon seems to be just an ordinary animal it doesn't seem to be anything magical about a dragon when you look at the historical Chinese calendar it's just another animal and when you think of the word for u dragon in Chinese is long And in the word for dinosaur is konglong

which means terrible dragon. It's interesting the Chinese people see a connection between the dragons of their own culture and the modern dinosaurs. And when Chinese scientists name a dinosaur like we will often call it something sorus they call it something long to keep their cultures. Chinese dinosaurs name something long. That's how they do it. And you got things like this as well. some statue which seem to match the best descriptions we have of dinosaurs. Okay, then what happened to them then? That's the question. Okay, I was saying that the Bible does talk about them. It talks when they were created. Um it says that they were still alive around the time of Job, but something happened to most of them that caused them to to become fossils. Now, what could have done that? Well, see, here's an example of a dino fossil. These are fossils of fighting dinosaurs. They were fossilized in the middle of a fight. This is what they were doing. The evolutionists say they were fighting like this. So what could have caused them to be buried so quickly they didn't have a chance to break off their fight and buried so deeply they didn't decay or get scavenged? I mean, think about this. Have you ever seen fossil roadkill? It's not going to happen, is it? So, how do you get a fossil? You got to bury something really quickly and really deeply. That's the only way you do it. So, scavengers can't get to it. And with the with the burial, you have the minerals to turn that thing into stone. So, you need to have rapid burial with lots of mud and mineralrich liquid to form a fossil. And these fossils are often in layers that go across whole continents and even match layers in different continents and not just a

local flood. Often layers are so wide they go across the whole world. And the only thing that will produce something uh like that across the world is a cause that's across the world which is the flood of Noah's day. Another thing is when you go to museums you might find these dinosaur fossil with their heads arched back like this which is ridiculous. saying people don't things don't do this. It's very unnatural. But they again that that puzzled the experts for decades. But then it took someone to to experiment with with freshly killed chickens and dunked them into cold water and the head swung right back. It turns out that things like this have to have elastic ligaments on the neck because think about this. Um this is not too hard to do, right? This is much harder to do. So, think about a dinosaur with a heavy head trying to hold this out with his muscles. You get get exhausted. So, it looks like they had elastic ligament to do most of that to to take up most of the weight. So, these dinosaurs had elastic ligaments like chickens do today. Elastic ligament down the spine. And the thing is after death muscles don't work, so the head goes down. But if you got buoyancy of water, the buoyancy takes up the mass of the head and now the elastic ligament has enough force to pull the head back like it did with those chickens that were freshly killed. So underwater, the heads came back. Now when they chopped off the the chopped the leg, severed the ligaments, the head didn't come back anymore. So it looks like these dinosaurs and you find these all over the world. It's called the typical dinosaur death pose. This is how common it is. It means these dinosaurs were underwater when they died. So the water uh supports the necks being

pulled back and then they're buried in that position and preserved in that weird position. That's what where we find them. Another thing is is footprints. I mean if you left a footprint outside, how long it's going to last? >> Not very long. You think? >> I agree with you. Okay. But this is not what they they want to tell us, though. as you find footprints like this goes back to to Queensland, Australia now to to 3,000 plus dinosaur footprints were found, but they had to to remove another rock layer to uncover them. And this rock layer was meant to be millions of years younger than the layer of the footprints. Okay. So million years from the footprints to the next layer. That's what it told us. >> How big do you think those footprints are? >> Oh, pretty big. Maybe they're big. Okay. Um, the point is though when the the the layer was removed, the footprint started to wear away almost immediately. They're in rock, but they wore wore away. So, they built a shed over it. That wasn't good enough. So, now they're inside this conservation building that controls running water, running children, running animals, controls the temperature and humidity to try to preserve these footprints in rock. Okay. But they told us that they must have been made when the stuff was soft to leave an impression and then were exposed for millions of years before the next layer came and buried them. How could that be when they didn't last a week unprotected? How could they be exposed for millions of years? The means that there can't be very much time between the layers. So you have this clue. You got this very fast form layer that goes across the whole world, but also one layer after another after another really quickly with no time

between them. Otherwise, the footprints would have been worn away. And yet another thing uh we found is not just with dinosaurs, but everything they looked at, they always find the footprints down here, but the animal up here supposedly millions of years apart. But how could this thing have lived millions of years to die up here? Well, it couldn't have. So the answer is these footprints were laid down as they were trying to escape this rising water. and they're escaping to higher ground and the flood eventually captured them on the higher ground after their footprints down here which means there isn't much time between the footprints and the animal not the millions of years. So again the millions of years disappears and if you haven't got millions of years there's no time for evolution to happen. I'm not saying that millions of years will allow evolution. I'm just saying that if you haven't got it then evolution cannot work. So no time between when someone leaves a track and when someone is buried. Another thing that's been found with dinosaurs is blood cells and even soft tissues and proteins from animal proteins and animal DNA have been found with dinosaurs and one of the discover Dr. Mary Schwitzer has been doing this for about 30 years and she was on 60 Minutes with Lesie Stalin uh talking about her discovery. Mistake. Mary put some fragments of the bone in acid to dissolve away the outermost layer of mineral. But the acid worked too fast and all the mineral dissolved away. Being a fossil, there should have been nothing left. But there was and it was elastic like living tissue. >> This is the piece. >> No. >> She showed us video she took under the microscope.

>> That's really what happened. Yes. >> That's the dinosaur bone >> without mineral. Now that's what was left. >> It looked like the soft tissue she would have expected to find if it had been modern bone. This was impossible. This bone was 68 million years old. So you see this and you think what you think? >> I didn't want to tell anybody. >> You'd be ridiculed. Yes. Right. >> And so I I said to my technician, "Okay, do it again. I don't believe it." >> And yet in sample after sample, they were there. Things that look suspiciously like flexible, transparent blood vessels. She finally mustered the courage to tell Jack. >> She said she dissolved the bone away and there were blood vessels. And you know, I was like shocked. I mean, >> how could that be? >> How could that be? That's right. >> The things Mary was finding inside dinosaur bones. >> Look at that. >> Blood vessels and even what seemed to be intact cells pose a radical challenge to the existing rules of science. That organic material can't possibly survive even a million years, let alone 68 million. >> Okay. Science tells you it can't be a million years old. Don't they always tell us trust the science? Let's do it. They can't be millions of years old. And even DNA they've found which also can't be millions of years old because DNA breaks down really really quickly. Now, okay, since Job lived after the flood, so how could he see dinosaurs if the flood wiped them out? Well, the answer is the flood didn't wipe out all of them because two of every kind went on board the ark. No, not the stupid thing. Please don't ever use this silly thing. I hate the picture. I think it should be banned.

I'm not in favor of book banning normally. I would make an exception for these bathtub arcs, though. Cuz the bathtub arcs tell the kids the arc's a fairy story and kids are very visual. That's the impression of the art they get. They know the arc's a load of rubbish. And it would be if it was this arc. this arc is a load of rubbish, but the real ark is not. The real ark is very good science. So, let's show kids the real ark because the Bible tells us how big the real ark was. Uh 300 cubits long, 50 wide, and 30 wide. And this is what a cubit means. You know, elbow to fingertip outstretched. Okay, cubit is Latin for elbow. You know if you have a blood draw here, this is called the cubital fossa. Okay, you can use use this information for you. Okay, but a cubid this is the standard unit of measure. I don't know how big the cubit was, but let's say mine's 19 in. Let's say that the arc was made with 18inch cubits. I'm being conservative here. Okay, so let's say it's an 18inch cubit shorter than mine, a little bit shorter than mine. So how big was the ark then? Well, yeah. So, it's one and a half football fields and it's wide enough to block six lanes of the interstate and it's higher than four fourstory building. That's big. So, there's no reason why we can't tell kids here is what the ark looked like. Have some humans for scale. The only thing this is that's wrong with a picture is the art would have been black because it was coated with pitch inside and out. And pitch was always used to be made most of it of history. What they did is pine resin. Two parts of pine resin, one part of charcoal, so it's black. That's a good design. It's called a composite uh composite

material. very good engineering design because the u the charcoal particles stop cracks from propagating from from extending through the mineral. Now why your tires are black because they got got carbon black. It's it's very fine particles of carbon because rubber is milky white but your tires have carbon black. So again those particles make the the the rubber much stronger and more abrasion resistant. So the pitching of the ark would have made it extremely um impact resistant as well as waterproof but impact resistant as well. It would have um made the um wood much firmer. It would not have slid apart from it just holds the wood in place. And you know pine resin the resin of a tree the sap is designed to be insect repellent. That's why the tree has it is it resists insects and resists fungus and resists other microbes. So it's antimicrobial, antifungal, insect repellent. So it means the ark would have been protected by this pitch inside and out by this very strong composite mineral composite material inside and outside the arc. So it would have been black. I think inside you probably put up a white sheet so you can so light will reflect off it. But it would have looked black on the outside. And also the carbon black absorbs ultraviolet. also means it protects the resin or protects the rubber from ultraviolet damage. So it's a good so God knew what he was doing when he said pitch the inside out. That's a very good reason for doing that. But also when you calculate how big this thing was. In fact, if you want to go on our website, we've got a lot of free videos as as the social media video pro. We got loads of free videos on our website now. And one year Dawn who's helping me at the book table, she's my colleague from uh from CMI. She and I did a video together on the ark. So you can watch us in action if you want to on our website. It's free. Now the ark is so big it would take you know

the biggest thing on the road today the semi-trail what do you call those things semi-trail semi you call it here tractor trailer you know they they block off all the lanes not supposed to be in left lane but road rules for other people not for them you can't see the sign in front because they're in the way um writing a breath so you can't actually get more than 50 miles an hour but the ark could hold about 340 trailer loads worth. You think of how big they are on the on the on the road and then you see the ark is 340 times the capacity of one of these and this is how much how many animals it could have held. And this is why I think a local flood idea is is doesn't make sense of the Hebrew text. It doesn't make sense. Why would you build a huge ark to escape a local flood? Just migrate somewhere like Lot did from Sodom, right? Just went somewhere else. If the flood was local, just go somewhere where the flood wasn't happening. There was nowhere to go because the flood's global. And how did a a local flood last a whole year? Floods don't last the whole year. They do if they cover the whole world, they will. Okay, so this is how big the ark was. Basically, um 300 uh every ark and all 300 sheet weighing 125 pounds each. and you got 340 times that. So you got about 102,000 sheepsized animals. And most animals are much smaller than a sheep. Think of most the birds, most of the lizards. Sheep is quite a big animal really. Most animals are much smaller. And the ark is also incredibly stable because it's so long. Uh waves would tend to align it with the wave direction. So that's where you want it. You don't want the waves hitting the side. you wanted to going along but also even

if they hit the side because the ark is so wide it was almost impossible to cap size. Just remember how big how wide the ark was 50 say length to is is 1:6 but it's a 1:10 length to height ratio. So, it's very very wide and very uh shallow. And that's what you want for it's it's not a a boat that has to move anywhere. When you look at the way that the the the Greek and the Hebrew describe, it's clearly a rectangular box. That's why you only have three dimensions given. It's a rectangular box. And the words tbar in Hebrew, Kibas in Greek mean a box or a chest shaped thing, not a boat. There are different words I can use for boat, but it's not a boat. is just designed to sail to keep things safe and it would have kept things incredibly safe because being 50 cubits wide uh even 500 foot waves could not have capsized the ark. So engineers did the uh computer simulations and scale modeling and they 500 foot waves could not capsize the ark and because it's so low uh profile it also has very little area for a hurricane wind to catch. So hurricane would not have capsized it either. So the biggest danger for a wooden sail ship is the mass. The mass has leverage. The woodwind hits the mass up here. It of course can capsize the the ship. But this it's so low profile there's nothing for the wind to to catch. So incredibly stable but also very uh comfortable because it would rock so slowly that you would not get seasick from it. you wouldn't have enough of the the frequency be too low for humans to get seasick from it. So the passage would not have been sick throughout the voyage. So a lot of good things about the ark design. God knew what he was doing when he gave those dimensions and the pitching uh all all those things and even the decks the three decks are like

a box skirt a giant box skirter construction. So that even the decks would actually be reinforcing structure from within. So a lot of different things about the arcs. Fascinating engineering the design there. So what was on the ark then? Well, that was clearly on because Duff had nowhere to send send them send them out, didn't he? Uh, this wasn't on the ark, by the way. Because the only creatures are on the ark. Look at the description of the creature, but also what was destroyed off the ark. Everything off the ark was destroyed that breathe through nostrils. Insects don't breathe through nostrils. So, insects weren't passengers. So only land creatures. So So there no uh no jellyfish because jellyfish are in the sea as well. So only land creatures have to be rescued from a flood. The sea creatures don't have to be because they're in the sea. They're used to living in the sea. Land creatures aren't used to it. So they have to be rescued. So this creature was not on either because it's in the sea. This creature was. So the answer to what was on the ark was land animals with backbones. So, no congressman, but also there not as many animals as you might think. I mean, um, even see, the kind is much bigger than a species. But even if it was one pair of every land vertebrate species, that gives you about 6,000 animals because most of the spe millions of species are insects and and sea creatures. So, they weren't on the ark. So 60,000 or so land vertebrate species, but the ark could contain almost twice that number of sheep. So species would not be a problem. But I think it was it was a lot less than that because these things are all the same kind. And we know that because they have babies together called hybrids. If they can have babies together,

remember in Genesis 1, they reproduce after their kind. So if they have babies together, they are the same kind. A lion has a baby with a tiger is called a liiger. If it's a male liger, it's called liger. If it's a male tiger, it's called a tigon. And they can have babies with leopards, too. And the biggest cat in the world today is a liger. But also, a liiger can have babies, too. A lion, a male lion can mate with a liger, and it's called a liigger. So, these are clear of the same kind. In fact, you can go to quite a few of these creatures like the karma camel and llama hybrid and beef. I think you guess what that is. Beef cattle and buffalo. Okay. Zonkey and zor gep. Guess what they are? I hope pig and boar are poor. I don't know. Pizzly bear, polar bear and grizzly. Right. Okay. Same kind. Okay. See see the kind is bigger than the species. This is not on the ark, but it's a whale and a dolphin. It's a false killer whale and a bottl-nose dolphin forming a walin. And the wolf has had babies of her own. That means that these must be all the same species, not the same time, but same species. If they if they can have babies that had their own babies, that means they're the same species. So when you look at the number of animals, if there are species, it's 60,000. If there's a genus which is the next highest level, then there's only about 16,000. If it's the next highest above that, for the family, which I think it was mostly I think most of the time the kind is roughly the family. Not always. And the fault is because of these man-made terms which aren't always consist. The kind is God's term which is consistent. the man-made terms family and genus and species are not always consistent. So I think about 2,000 animals were on the board tonight that could have held

102,000 animals. Now even big dinosaurs would not have been a problem. uh because first of all you got you got too many of the names like for instance what was realized when they actually um started to study the dinosaur bones they could work out what was growing bone looked very spongy and what was mature bone which looked quite solid and so they could work out that these things were still growing and as they got a bit older they changed the shape so these were all the same creature at different stages of life. So again, not three pairs but one pair of these. In fact, one expert in fact this is the horner is the jack who was on the video I showed you. He said about onethird of dinosaur species may never have existed but are merely different stages of growth than other growth of other known dinosaurs. So it looks like got too many dinosaur names but also we have this phenomenon where dinosaurs went through a growth spurt. It seems that the dinos most most of the dinosaurs analyze there's some exception but most of the dinosaurs went through this growth spurt. So if God is the one who's telling the animals to come to God says the animals will come to you. God is doing something to bring the animals to Noah. Noah didn't have to fetch them. So he he brings them on a year before their growth spurt starts. So they're on the ark. They're still quite small throughout their time on the ark. As soon as they get off the ark, they're ready to go through their growth spurts really quickly and reach their full height and then level off again. So the answer, how do you fit the giant brachiosaurus on the AR? Because they weren't giant when they went on, they were they were juveniles, far smaller than their adults height. And and there also things we could talk about a lot of things I could talk about

just the ark. I've got a talk I'm doing for I've got a semary project coming up actually and I'm doing a a talk just on the ark about things like how do you dispose of the waste products and uh other things like freshwater and saltwater fish this sort of stuff we can see that the video that Dawn lied we cover a few of those things you want to go to a bit more but what what happened to dinosaurs then I think humans hunted them is one thing but let's face it lots of creatures have become extinct and we don't hear much about them them it seems that I mean over twothirds of all mammals that were on the ark have gone extinct. So we think of dinosaurs but dinosaurs weren't the only thing that's become extinct. Maybe we have to explain why things are not extinct rather than why things are extinct. But the evolutionists have their own ideas like for instance this junkie theory which says that narcotic plants evolved. So the planteaters got stoned and the meat eaters then had nothing to hunt. Okay, that's one of the the evolutionary theories. Here's another one. The asteroid theory. The problem is why didn't the asteroid wipe out the crocodiles? But they told us dinosaurs ruled the earth for 180 million years. That's what they tell us. So why did they become extinct but not the crocodiles and not the flowering plants and not the frogs and not the moths which are much more delicate creatures? They survived this supposed meteor impact. But the dinosaurs were wiped out. I think it wiped out the wrong things. And my own favorite evolutionary theory is this one that tobacco evolved. They all died of lung cancer. So what can we say in summary before I let you guys ask me a few questions is that dinosaurs tell us about God's creativity as we find in Genesis 1, but

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the I'm doing on the flood. I've got one more to write. Uh as for kids, you might like this creation astronomy for kids. This is a new book we have and this new dinosaur pack we have for kids with books of different ages. Got books for the older kids and the younger kids plus some uh dinosaur flashcards and things. It's a really nice um pack for the kids there and it's heavily discounted. This is a a general kids pack and a family pack here. So we we try and make it as easy as possible to to bulk buy and save a lot of a lot that way. And also these will make good Christmas and birthday presents too for for more advanced stuff on dinosaurs. You might like this Titans book. This is for high schools and and the um adult book on dinosaurs. And we have a curriculum as well which could be interesting for for a lot of people 11 and up. People have been asking us for that. And my latest book is called by design about the amazing wonders of God's creation from the wonders of the microscopic wonders in our each of our cells the robotic systems in our cell plus the gigantic wonders as well. So few different things on the book table there. Uh and we have this this Genesis Academy which is the uh video version a teaching video version of the Genesis account. 12 different v 35 minute v videos. Great for a home school or a church study group. You can go through over 12 weeks and there's a free study that goes with it. Now I do have some time for questions if you want to. Don't know how late you're allowed to say but I don't I don't mind asking um open up for a few questions if you'd like to. The only rule I have is that what you say must end in a question mark. Okay. Go ahead. >> Did the atmosphere change affect the heart rates and anything like that with the dinosaurs? >> I don't believe there was an atmosphere

change to be honest. I don't think there's there's good enough evidence to accept there was an atmosphere change before and after the flood. That's a some of the older creationists of about 30 plus years ago thought that. I think this the evidence is equivocal. It's not clear one way or the other that it was an atmosphere change. I think they could have coped. I think it's just a matter of what they did to cope. Like we know giraffes can cope with this pressure change and I think there's there reason to believe that dinosaurs could have done the same just like the reason to believe the terasaur could have flown in today's atmospheric pressure. I don't think there's any re there's any conclusive evidence the atmosphere has changed. Okay. Can you explain adapting if evolution is not real? Because evolution is basically adapting just over millions and millions of years. >> Well, I would dispute that because adaptation is part of the biblical creation model as well. See, creationist before Darwin understood natural selection and adaptation. So if it's part of the creation model, it can't be used as evidence against the creation model because it's part of the creation model as well. The creation model is not fixity of species. We believe a species, God designed species to change, which means there adaptation. Even before the fall, there was adaptation. So adaptation is there. God gave um programmed us all creatures with a huge amount of genetic variation which means they had the ability to adapt to a whole lot of different conditions. Now my first book refuting evolution which designed for the high school the second chapter is all about variation natural selection and the created kind. It talks about adaptation and how that occurs in the biblical time that's a biblical framework. It does not preer

evolution. For instance, in fact, I'll talk about that tomorrow. The church in the church. I'll talk about natural selection tomorrow. If you if you don't mind waiting till tomorrow's service, I'll talk about what happens for instance when uh dogs adapt to the cold, what is actually going on genetically and how it does not help evolution. In fact, it does the opposite because natural selection is a culling force, not a creative force. Natural selection works by taking out the unfit. It doesn't create the fit. It removes that which is not fit. And so that's how that works. That's how adaptation work often by removing what is not suited to that condition. But see, God programmed create created kinds with lots of different um lots of different genes that they could actually adapt to different things. You have some which can adapt to the cold, some which can adapt to the hot. So, and and with the fish, some can adapt to the salty water, some to the fresh water. Again, without evolution happening, there's no turning of one kind into another. It's all within the kind. And the examples they give you, you see this is why I think evolution is so deceptive is that they will try to prove evolution with examples of adaptation or examples of natural selection which have been part of creation model since before Darwin's times. They can't be used as proof of one over the other. It's a what you might call the fallacy of overlapping predictive realms. Something which is a part of both models can't be used to discriminate between one over the other. You have to have something which which one model says yes, other says no. Not one that says both models say yes to. That's I'll talk about that more tomorrow. Okay. >> So you mentioned that insects may not

have been on the ark. >> Correct. >> Where did they come from? >> Well, insects were were they survived the flood, but probably because the flood would tear up lo huge amounts of vegetation. Even small floods today, they will tear up masses of of plant matter and form natural rafts. And even today, animals, much bigger animals have actually hopped from one island to another on these natural rafts. So it happens even today, natural rafts can hold animals. I'd say when you have a giant flood, you're going to have these humongous natural rafts and and for a whole year, they could hold the small things like insect. They couldn't hold the big things for a whole year, but they could hold the small things. So insects survived off the ark on these natural rafts that the flood would have produced. Another idea is pummus or driftwood. But I think natural rafting is the best place to find the insects and the arachnids and those sort of things. That's where they would be off the ark on these giant rafts. >> Yes sir. >> If insects weren't on the ark, what about spiders? Because spiders are not insects. >> You are correct that spiders not. That's why I distinguish between insects and arachnids. But I think arachnids are the same the same thing. They are they would have been on these rats as well. Yes, it is. Yeah. Spider are definitely not an insect. They you have two body parts instead of three and they have eight legs instead of six. Right. And they have book lungs and various things like that. Yeah. Don't really like arachnid too much. I have to admit, but when you need a few because thanks to spiders, the insects in your house are not going to be as bad as they could be. So they do they do good for us. Not in Australia. Australia they have really nasty spiders called funnel webs which

can bite through your fingernail. That's how bad they are. But go ahead. Yes ma'am. >> Yes. If you use the word pangia to indicate the separation of the continent from one big mass into multiple masses. Would you say that most of that was occurring during and shortly after the flood? >> Yes I do. In fact, creation answers book chapter 11 is all about continental drift and and the we think the Bible teaches one land mass before the flood because it says the waters were gathered together into one place and the dry land appeared. That seems to be one main pre flood land mass. And I think what happened uh for the flood was actually to break up this land mass. And the theory behind that is called catastrophic plate tectonics. We have now slow and gradual plate tectonics, but it would have been much faster in the past. And it wouldn't have happened long ago because what happens, you have one plate going underneath another called subduction. And when you when you measure the temperature down here, it's still quite cool. You see, millions of years, it should have warmed up to the surrounding material, but it's thousands of degrees cooler. It means it hasn't been there long enough. So it means it went there down there a few thousand years ago, not a few million years ago. That's why it's still able to be so cool. See, so I think that's this seems to support the idea of a very rapid process that happened a few thousand years ago and it would have broken up that single one continent that existed before the flood. Yes. Yes, sir. Um can you talk about fossil fuels? Uh what you know people say there's a limited amount of fossil fuels and it relates to this idea that the dinosaurs and all the plant matter all died during this catastrophic event. Is is do you think fossil fuels are a limited resource or did God put it

there? >> Believe it or not, my commentary is the only one that talks about fossil fuels as well. You know, >> yeah, it's unusual to have a Genesis comedy talking about fossil fuels. The idea is that see um plants are sort of solar energy concentrators. See, we could not be photosynthetic, you see, because we need leaves a huge volume of leaves because we need so much energy. So, we eat the plants who have already concentrated the energy. I think plants are basically God's self-reroducing solarp powered food factories and the flood enabled further concentration of plant matter into fossil fuels and fossil fuels have been a blessing to us. We had the industrial revolution because of fossil fuels has abled us to have cheap energy which has been a lifesaver. So climate deaths were far worse hundreds of years ago than they are now because we have the energy to cope with changing climates which we didn't have um even even 100 years ago. See in um Europe more people die of of cold than they die of the heat because of the expensive fuel in places like Germany who their fossil fuel industry. And now the people can't afford to heat their houses and they die in winter because it's too cold. I think it's a very inhuman thing. But the unfortunately the greenies the at least the fanatical environmentalists don't believe what God said that God gave man dominion over creation which means men are more important than other things. They think men are a poll. They think humans are a pollution on the planet. So they're quite happy for millions of people to die of the cold or malaria or things like that which is really bad. But I think fossil fuels have been good for us. And if you want to get if you want to avoid fossil fuels, build nuclear plants, but they don't want to do that because

they're afraid of nuclear. Even though the worst nuclear accident was Chernobyl, 56 people died. Twice that many died building the hub dam. It's a perspective. It's a we in it. We're we live in a fallen world. We can't have perfect solutions. We only have trade-offs between uh various levels of goodness and badness. And it's up to us to try to be wise and choose the best tradeoff we can given what we have available. And I think the best trade-off is to have fossil fuel generation for cheap energy and fight and coping with the climate change with the cheap energy rather than having people die because they can't afford to heat their houses. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh If dinosaurs wore on the ark, then they grew. You said that humans hunted them and that's how those dinosaurs went extinct. But how did we hunt them? Because dinosaurs are so strong. >> Okay. Well, think about whales. We hunted whales. You You might remember if you read Moby Dick, for instance, the first great American novel. Probably humans almost hunted whales to extinction with handheld harpoons and wooden sailing ships. But whales are bigger than dinosaurs. They have bigger brains and more intelligence than dinosaurs. And they also have the home turf advantage of being in the ocean. And yet humans almost wiped out the whale populations. So if we could wipe out the whale population, we could have wiped out the dinosaurs, too, because we have on the land, we're on our own the same turf, and we have the ability to use weaponry and fire and traps and poison. Those are some ways that humans could have outwitted the dinosaurs. I'm not saying if one human goes up and hunts a dinosaur by himself, but teamwork or build a trap for them to fall in

a poison dart. There are things you could do. If you could do it to the whales, you could do it to the dinosaurs. That's the thing. I mean, we we we know it's been done to the whales. Unfortunately, I I'm very sorry. I I like whales. It's a shame that whales are endangered. They shouldn't have been. We don't need to hunt whales, but unfortunately humans hunted them and I wish they hadn't. But if if it had been done, it means it could have been done to dinosaurs. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, you said that many of the dinosaurs died kind of instantly, but the flood took 40 days and 40 nights, and I feel like that would really be a lot more gradual. So, for instance, that dinosaur, those two dinosaurs that are fighting, how did they die? so suddenly cuz for one drowning takes a while >> and for two >> okay >> and you can't die that quickly from a little bit of rain water like how long must have they've been fighting to die from >> I think they both just drowned there they were probably buried there see not just in water but those D were buried by a whole hunk of a huge amounts of sediment which mean that the weight of the sediment would stop them moving and also suffocate them pretty quickly. So be they would be deprived of oxygen pretty quickly. So not so they wouldn't be under water. I think they would have been under huge amounts of sediment, mud and water, not just the water. It's a sediment that buried them and then stop the the salmon getting to them. So it wasn't just the being in water for that time. But you'd be surprised how quickly drowning works. I think people don't seem to realize how dangerous drowning is because people don't know what drowning really looks like. There's some helpful videos around about how to

recognize someone who really is drowning and doesn't look what what like what you think a drowning person looks like. It's it's much quicker than you might think it is. I don't don't wish it on anyone of course. But yeah, it would have been quite quick for those things being buried under a whole lot of stuff. >> I think but a muds on on a huge scale though. >> So I think mudslides would be a very real thing. And then also the flood. See the 40 days and 40 nights describe the rainfall. But the flood lasted a whole year because you remember there's also the fountains of the great deep bursting forth. But the 40 days and 40 nights of rain was all but the flood lasted a whole year. It's a whole year before they can get off the ark again because it talks about the flood prevailing for 150 days. So the flood kept on growing for another 150 days. For about 150 days total. So it's half a year the flood is still growing because the stuff is coming from the from below as well as the rainfall. So very long. And you think of well we I mean even a small flood I mean you know six inches of running water can can knock down a strong man and but two feet of running water can overturn an SUV. That's that's how powerful running water is when you think of that's just a small flood. When you think of of running water of a global flood, that is going to be incredibly destructive. I think people don't realize how destructive floods are. I mean, even a moderately deep flood has the energy of a tornado when it comes to the ability to knock things over. I mean, reinforced concrete and steel can be knocked over by floods. That's how powerful they can be. And you think of a flood on a global scale, nothing is going to stand up to that. How could such huge dinosaurs like in the ark, how do they like

>> like stay like in there like and not be cramped? Do they just like lay down and get some beauty sleep? >> Well, as I said, I think they weren't huge when they went on the ark. I think they were were were juveniles, young ones before they went they had their growth spurt. You know, I mean, when it comes to humans, all parents know about teenage growth spurts, right? Well, dinosaurs went through something like that. I think they they went on board the ark before their growth spurts. They weren't as that big. I don't think they would have been full-size brachiosaurus or T-Rex and all. I think they would have been much smaller creatures. Maybe even the biggest dinosaur might have been only one ton when he was on board the ark. So, they weren't big when they went on the on the ark. They grew big after they get off got off the ark. Okay. >> Curious. I'm curious if you have any thoughts about whether CO was largely man I won't say made but engineered. >> I don't think so. That's a bit of a controversial topic. We not talk about too much but I think CO was natural. I think it's got I don't believe it was man-made. Okay. So it's my own opinion. To believe me if you don't want my opinion it was actually natural. seem to happen before with other things. I mean the flu virus seems to be a natural aven virus. Uh Ebola seems to come from bats. Quite a few things that seem to be it's called a zooonotic transfer when it goes from an animal to a human. That's why they're dangerous because God created viruses and bacteria to be good for us. After the fall, some became bad for us. And when it comes to virus, one reason they could become bad for us is they hopped from one thing where it's supposed to be to another where it's not supposed to be. Like a harmless and possibly beneficial bird virus becomes a dangerous virus like influenza. Okay. So I think it's what happened with co as

well. Um I think a natural thing but I think some quite bad things happened. It shouldn't have got out of the whole world and it should have been locked down as soon as it was noted. Unfortunately, communist China put threw wish whistleblowers in jail for warning about how dangerous this thing was. So, it got out to the whole world. Then they changed their tune a bit. But, I mean, the at first they were pretending it didn't transmit by humanto human contact, which we know it does, unfortunately. It's a horrible thing to happen. I managed to escape it, thank goodness. Um, but people I know died from the thing, which is terrible really. But I mean even now you know your body has more bacterial cells than human cells mostly in your large intestine and you need those bacteria. Okay? But you got about 10 times more viruses inside you and those viruses and bacteria keep each other in line keep each other from getting out of control. So I wrote, if you look at an article on my on the website, I wrote an article called the microbiome and vyro, it talks about all the good bacteria and viruses you all have inside you which you need to be healthy. Just as a letter, God created the things to be good but since the fall had become bad. Some of them have become bad. Most are still good today. I I'll get to you first this here then I'll get to you. Okay. The last question. Okay. Um, so we have DNA. Why don't we insert the DNA into eggs? >> You're talking about cloning. >> What do you mean? Can you clarify? >> Cloning? >> Yeah. Like like unstinking cuz if we have have DNA, you could insert the DNA into the egg. Wouldn't that like re like clone? You've actually watched a lot of Joe Jurassic World movies, have you? >> Okay, doesn't matter if you have. I

mean, I've watched them all as well for research purposes only. Okay. The problem is that the we have dinosaur DNA which should not be there. It shouldn't be any even if it was frozen and a tenth of the supposed age should have been disintegrated by now. Even frozen to to it shouldn't have lasted as long as it does. Dinosaur led to the tropics where it should break down in a few thousand years. What we see in the dinosaur DNA is about what you expect if dinosaurs died out 54 4,500 years ago. It's about the right amount, but it's very fragmented. So, you couldn't use that DNA to clone a dinosaur because it's it's broken into millions of pieces. We don't know which which order they go back together. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, but we haven't got the actual cover of a jigsaw to know how to put it back together again. And also, we haven't got a dinosaur egg to put it in either. That's a problem, too. You're right. It needs an egg. Not just the DNA. It needs the egg to put it in. But we haven't got a dinosaur egg. So, I'm afraid we're out of luck for cloning a dinosaur. Okay. You briefly then judge over there. You first. Go ahead, young man. >> I think Noah fed the animals because you had centralized um equipment, very low tech equipment. You wouldn't leave very high tech, but what you have is a central cylinder with water and a central cylinder with with grain or dried meats, for instance, dried meat and you have a have a trough. So you have one central feeding station and you let the stuff into the trough. So you it wouldn't be having to feed every animal by hand because you have these automatic things which are not very high techch which people have known about for thousands of years. uh people have known how to take care of animals for thousands of years with these low tech devices like these central filling

stations and troughs. So it could have been done but gentleman over there and then maybe last question. Okay, but thank you. >> Um so mine is towards the the catastrophic tectonic type stuff which I ascribe to uh to the young lady's point over there. Just a a quick refresher. When Hurricane Helen hit us back in 24, it was only three days of rain, about 21 inches, and it resulted in massive catastrophic mudslides. Oh, yeah. Deaths and destruction, which they're still recovering from today. >> So 40 days would be pretty rough. But are you going to be touching on some of that? Because I know some people would argue like, oh, so the flood went to Mount St. Helens and my argument has always been Mount St. Helens didn't exist and there's seashells up there. >> Well, correct. You know that there's actually marine limestone on the top of Mount Everest and bottom dwelling fossils are on top of Mount Everest which shows it was underwater once. But you are quite right. These mountains came after the flood as a result of these these really fast movements would would have pushed and buckled and pushed the mountains up like m the mountain range of the Himalayas. They did not exist before the flood. So the idea of how did the water cover Mount Everest? Well, Everest didn't exist to cover at the time. All these mountains that we talk about came after the flood and we see the evidence and not only because of the marine limestone on the top, but also the very sharp bends in the rock layers. Well, how do you bend a rock? Tell me how to bend a rock. >> What happens when you try and bend a rock? >> It breaks. So, the only way you're going to get these sharp bends is if the rock is not hard yet. So, the rock's laid down by water. It's

still soft and it's pushed up and bent like this. And then it hardens after it's been bent, which means all the rock was so all these massive layers of rock were so soft when these they were pushed together and bent. They didn't have a chance to harden. Otherwise, you would see the breakages when you try and bend it. But thanks. I I guess it's a good time to stop before it gets too late. Thanks for all your good questions. I like questions that even challenge me a bit. So, I'm happy to get that. So, uh, tomorrow at >> 10:30. >> 10:30. Okay. I'll be here tomorrow at 10:30. I'll be tomorrow is more about why does Genesis matter? I'll talk a bit bit more about the flood tomorrow uh morning. Also, I'm going to talk about design and natural selection tomorrow morning because people obviously um need that that's what people need to know. But there's amazing design and living things I want to talk about. as well. But I also but the main thing is is how does Genesis relate to who Jesus is and to the gospel even? So it's not a side issues. That's what I'll be talking about tomorrow in the church service. But thank you very much for your attention and thank you pastor. >> Thank you so much. Hey and uh don't forget that 10:30 tomorrow and 4:00 as well. I know that many of you have local churches that you go and you worship at. We're thankful for that. Uh make sure that you uh uh invite some friends. Make sure that you're back at four o'clock uh for I think that that one is six days really. And so it's going to be a great time. So I hope that it uh would be a great encouragement to you. I want to read to you just this passage real quick. Uh as Dr. Saridy was uh uh sharing Psalm 19:es 1-4. It says, "The heavens declare the glory of God and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to

night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are their words, whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. All creation declares the glory of God. Amen. Go in peace. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, please.